The following is a 6 message exchange between 3 users
@9JDCDNV4mos4MO
make abortions legal to a certain extent again
@Patriot-#1776Constitution4mos4MO
Ban abortion, zero exceptions. We've saved 32,000 lives since the overturn of Roe v. Wade. I'm not stopping this fight till we save them all and stop this Second Holocaust, of the unborn.
@9CJ6CB64mos4MO
Alright then, here’s a good situation for this: the fetus is guaranteed to die within a few days of birth due to a genetic condition, and the mother is at extreme risk of forced to deliver. You can save 1 life by aborting, and the fetus would’ve died anyway, or lose both of them almost for sure if forcing brith.
@Patriot-#1776Constitution4mos4MO
First of all I'd like to say that you do realise that in only 8% of abortion cases is there the smallest detectible degree of risk to the mother or child, so even this was permitted, you'd still be in favour of banning 92% of abortions, and in less than 1% of cases is there danger to both mother and child, so in 99.5+ percent of cases this situation never happens. Now that that's been established, let's look at what you propose
(1) Medical professionals have told us that the child will die if he is not murdered
(2) Medical professionals have told the mother that she will die… Read more
@9CJ6CB64mos4MO
Yet another problem with the argument, you rely heavily on two worries: if it’s wrong in their calculations, and that the process is gruesome. This immediately leaves the gruesomeness of that as sort of main-reason of this, and as such, if the gruesomeness were not a problem, would that then be an issue? The abortion provider is also extremely rarely wrong about this type of thing. You are also forgetting that the life of the mother is also at high risk in this scenario, so you are willingly forcing two deaths to ignore having to do one for the fear of gruesomeness, which is an argument that could be dismantled had we simply chosen more humane options, and let’s not forget that painkillers exist in the equation.
@Patriot-#1776Constitution4mos4MO
Okay, you want to press this rare, <0.5%-of-the-time problem as an argument that abortion should be allowed the other 99.5% of cases? Painkillers are not given to children during their late-term butchery section, they are literally torn limb from limb and their skulls crushed to oblivion without a drop of anaesthetic.
This same argument you're using could have been used during the Holocaust. A *** knocks on a German's door and asks if he can hide there, but the German selfishly says, "No, the SS are everywhere. They'll find us and then both me AND you will be slaugh… Read more
