https://wired.com/story/why-we-do-not-recommend-ring
A few days after a Ring camera catches several teens in camera confessing to shooting and killing a Lyft driver in Washington, D.C., WIRED says they don't recommend Ring cameras because they let you easily send video to police.
@ChameleonPiper10mos10MO
Ring cameras allow Amazon to connect to your camera without your permission, as well as sending the video to law enforcement.
Clear 4th Amendment violation.
@C1vilRightsKangaroo10mos10MO
How is that a 4th amendment violation? That doesn't mean what you think it means.
@ChameleonPiper10mos10MO
Unlawful search.
@DeterminedDelegate10mos10MO
Its not unlawful. Amazon, which owns the information, voluntarily gave it to law enforcement. The 4th amendment is only triggered if it is involuntary. And sometimes, under the "3rd party doctrine" it can be involuntarily seized if information is owned by 3rd party i.e. Amazon
@R3f0rmLily10mos10MO
I have zero problem with it subject to warrant or voluntary turn over. I am not comfortable with it being open more than that because of the dangers of generalized surveillance abuse.
@NegotiationZebraRepublican10mos10MO
Not your business. Customers want to turn it in voluntarily.
@AbjectJackrabbit10mos10MO
"But it also allows Ring owners to send videos they've captured with their Ring video doorbell cameras and outdoor security cameras to law enforcement. ... If a crime has been committed, law enforcement should obtain a warrant to access civilian video footage." !!!!!!
@R3d1strictingRatDemocrat10mos10MO
Since the homeowner has seen the footage, he or she is in a position to confirm that a crime has been committed. Why demand a warrant for footage that you want to provide to the police anyway?
@JusticeMia10mos10MO
If a citizen has video footage and cares about their community...THEY GIVE THE FOOTAGE TO THE POLICE to help keep their community safe.
Why would anyone who has footage and WANTS the crime solved...sit back and wait for a warrant?
@InsecureConstitution10mos10MO
I don't understand the conceit of "privacy" absolutists who somehow believe that an unsolved crime is better than one solved with the aid of a high-definition, stick-up cam.
@FabulousInd3pend3ntDemocrat10mos10MO
I could understand a privacy concern if the police had uncontrolled access to video of inside a house. But people approaching a house from outside have no privacy rights in regard to video recording from the house.
@LazyFalcon10mos10MO
How is it vigilante behavior if you are sending an alert to the police and the police are ajudicating the dispute? Do words have any meaning at WIRED?
@TreatyMooseIndependent10mos10MO
Putting a security camera in a store with a lot of foot traffic, etc, is very different from putting a camera on your front door or in your yard b/c you feel okay violating the privacy of passersby to protect your stuff
@ThrilledSenateRepublican10mos10MO
Passersby on public sidewalks and individuals on someone else's property have no privacy rights with regard to being recorded by the property owner.
@WearyPollster10mos10MO
Bad guys getting caught doing bad things. Sounds good to me.
@BoldSw1ngStateLibertarian10mos10MO
Heaven forbid criminals might be caught because racism. That entire notion seems a bit racist.
@Bureaucr4tApples10mos10MO
Are they really saying if my camera catches criminal activity I am not allowed to give MY FOOTAGE to police because I would be violating the "privacy" of the criminals?
That is not the way ANY of this works.
@ObsessedBallotIndependent10mos10MO
Apparently giving accurate information to identify suspects is racial profiling. Which says far more about WIRED than anyone else.
@J0intCommitt3eBuck10mos10MO
Ring cameras are terrible for those who support shooting Lyft drivers.
@MackerelPiper10mos10MO
Why is the press complaining that residents can contact police? Should they also advise against owning a telephone because it can dial 911?
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