The allowance of same-sex marriage is logically and philosophically unhealthy for society.
The basis for same-sex marriage as outlined in Obergefell v. Hodges held that "love and consent" were the two essential pillars of what marriage is. This erased the essential pillars of "two individuals, male/female" and "permanent union" as part of the definition of what marriage is.
For those who defend same-sex marriage, my question would be if "love and consent" are the only requirements for marriage, would you extend the right to marriage to a foursome? Or… Read more
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The case merely erased the requirement because it remains unfair for those who can be mentally adequate to consent outside of the area of the nuclear-family style marriage. The goal of most of this is to allow for the most overall happiness and freedom for the most individuals that are actually capable of consent outside of their own family. To answer your first question, yes, it possibly would, as this isn’t uncommon in many cultures due to the fact that culture is what defines the premise of marriage in many scenarios. For a long time, marriage was a political pawn between leaders or… Read more
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“while maintaining morality that the vast majority consider common sense after whatever group wants to marry is considered. Pedophilia and incest aren’t okay because the family marrying itself leads to severe genetic problems for the child, and because children are not considered mentally capable of consenting until after 18, not because some magical switch in their head flips, but because that’s considered a safe benchmark for their brains to be developed enough to understand their choices and be safe.”
Interesting, I disagree for a couple of reasons.
First, you mentioned that morality is dictated by what "the vast majority consider common sense." If this is the case, there is no objective standard for what consitutes morality. For example, "the vast majority considered common sense" the idea of segregation and slavery. If we dictate what is moral based on "common sense" we can justify horrendous injustices and immorality. A question back to you would be what if pedophilia was considered "common sense" (as it was in Ancient Greece)? Would that justify… Read more
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I said that the majority reinforces what is moral, though the effect and fairness are the stronger measures of morality of the five principles that make up what is moral.
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Curious if you have any response to my previous thought?
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I'm not sure I understand what you mean. What are the five principles that make up what is moral?
Also, not sure what you make of the questions I posed before? A question back to you would be what if pedophilia was considered "common sense" (as it was in Ancient Greece)? Would that justify marriage of adults and children? They certainly saw social benefit to these relationships and considered them to be fair in the sense that a younger boy would gain wisdom by virtue of being in relationship with older men.
Second, you said that incestuous marriage isn't okay because of gene… Read more
