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  @9CJ6CB6 from Virginia disagreed…2mos2MO

Bible isn’t a basis of law, it wasn’t written to be one either. If the child cannot feel, think, or move on it’s own, that’s not a child, that’s a fetus, though it’s DNA is different, that doesn’t make it of the same moral value as a fully grown and birthed child. Morality is something that varies between conditions in certain aspects, and this is one of those times where it varies.

 @Name-IrrelevantConstitution  from West Virginia disagreed…2mos2MO

The ability to feel pain has never been a determination of what does and doesn't count as life. Coma patients are never declared non-human simply because they can't feel pain (as far as we know). Therefore, we can't discount the human status of the unborn simply based on whether or not they're known to feel pain.

  @9CJ6CB6 from Virginia commented…2mos2MO

And they’re also fully grown, pain is one of many factors here, it’s just the most powerful one I commonly use.

  @Patriot-#1776Constitution from Washington disagreed…2mos2MO

If the Bible, which in our previous conversations I have proved, is the only logical possibility, why should we not base important laws off the truths we read of therein?

  @9CJ6CB6 from Virginia commented…2mos2MO

Because regardless, the law restraining things based off of what is a sin directly encroaches upon the capacity for someone to even choose right or wrong in a victimless manner. If we made every sin illegal, where’s the choice to not do it in the first place? That’s the basis of the Christian gospel, it must be chosen, not forced, and its moral values do not speak for everyone, nor is it even built or stated to do so. Nationalizing religion is a perversion of its purpose, and a failure of trust in faith itself, opting to enforce it based on one’s own religious opinions that…  Read more

  @Patriot-#1776Constitution from Washington disagreed…2mos2MO

You've committed the Strawman Fallacy (again!) attacking a position I never claimed to hold (that every sin should be illegal). Rather, what I said was the the MURDER OF THE UNBORN should be illegal. I never said I was in favour of government banning things like insulting people, hitting people, and excluding people – I said I was in favour of government preventing the shedding of innocent blood. Quite a difference, that.

  @9CJ6CB6 from Virginia commented…2mos2MO

You said, and I quote “why should we not base important laws off the truths therein?” That’s an extremely vague statement, which was said in the manner of a wide range of “important laws”, which could easily encompass a wider breadth than just abortion. When laws favor a religion’s beliefs, especially when written in the context of the Bible (as our conversation was previously referring to), that destroys the choice of which society can work. In regards to abortion, the Bible has said NOTHING even remotely close to stating that abortion isn’t allowed,…  Read more

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